The New Science of Non-Human Intelligence with Dr Michael Cifone

In this episode of EMERGENT, I sit down with Dr. Michael Cifone to examine what it will take to build a real science of non-human intelligence. We look at why traditional ufology has stalled, how eyewitness testimony should inform next-generation detection systems, and what it means to study the mind behind UAP—not just the objects.

In this episode, we explore: Why UAP evidence demands new scientific standards. The forensic epistemic loop that stalled 80 years of inquiry. How phenomenology and experience guide better instrumentation. The challenge of studying intelligence without anthropomorphism. The “relational event space” of human–non-human interaction. Why slow, methodical, institutional groundwork is essential If we want to understand NHI, we must build the science capable of perceiving it.

Hightlights

  • 00:00 – Introduction: Why “Non-Human Intelligence” Matters
  • 02:45 – Meet Dr. Michael Cifone and Overview of the Episode
  • 05:30 – Defining “Non-Human Intelligence”: What It Means
  • 10:12 – Historical Context: Past Research & Beliefs
  • 14:55 – Scientific Challenges & Skepticism
  • 19:40 – Methodologies for Studying Non-Human Intelligence
  • 24:20 – Case Studies and Evidence Presented
  • 30:05 – Ethical Implications & What “Intelligence” Means
  • 34:50 – Consciousness vs Intelligence: Are They the Same?
  • 39:25 – Potential Applications: Technology, AI, Communication
  • 44:00 – Risks & Controversies: Misinterpretations & Hoaxes
  • 48:37 – What’s Next: Future Directions for the Science
  • 53:10 – Summary: Key Takeaways from the Discussion
  • 57:45 – Final Thoughts & Call to Action (Subscribe / Further Reading)

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